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LPGA blows it with Morgan Pressel penalty - 05/20/12 4:32:52 PM
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NiftyNiblick
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The LPGA simply isn't popular enough to annoy people with the enforcement of their prissy rules, especially when it impacts the outcome of a tournament.
The rules officials who made themselves a part of the show today deserve an unpleasant visit from thumb breakers as far as I'm concerned, and if I had a substantial bet on Pressel, they would have received it.
I really like the young Spanish girl who got her first LPGA Tour win, but I know the poor kid can't feel very good about it.
The whole slow play thing is nonsense to me anyway. I'm not a slow player, but if I don't have six hours to kill, I don't play golf. It's not a game for people in a hurry, and I honestly don't care for that type of impatient person anyway..
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RE: LPGA blows it with Morgan Pressel penalty - 05/20/12 5:02:05 PM
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1puttit
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Completely disagree. They were put on the clock and notified of that fact. Morgan Pressel then went over the allotted time on the very next hole, switching clubs on the tee and taking a long time on her second shot. you can't selectively enforce the rules, you either enforce them or they stop being rules.
Every tour has pace of play rules and regulations, but none of them are enforced on the PGA tour. Most of the PGA players think its a complete joke when they are asked to speed up. They know the worst they are going to get is a small fine which is nothing compared to the hundreds of thousands they are playing for. The last time a penalty stroke was assessed on the PGA tour was 20 YEARS ago! No wonder it takes those guy 5-6 hours for a round playing twosomes.
I, for one, am happy to see the LPGA enforce pace of play and wish the PGA tour would follow suit.
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RE: LPGA blows it with Morgan Pressel penalty - 05/20/12 5:10:02 PM
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NiftyNiblick
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Every tour has pace of play rules and regulations, but none of them are enforced on the PGA tour.
The wiser solution would be to dispense withthe unnecessary rules.
You might read your own signature, by the way.
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RE: LPGA blows it with Morgan Pressel penalty - 05/20/12 5:23:38 PM
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ronsc1985
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Let's see, they applied their well known and understood rules about pace of play and they blew it.
Some of you guys exhibit the analytical ability of a root vegetable with apologies to turnips and potatoes.
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RE: LPGA blows it with Morgan Pressel penalty - 05/20/12 5:37:13 PM
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professor
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ORIGINAL: NiftyNiblick
The whole slow play thing is nonsense to me anyway. I'm not a slow player, but if I don't have six hours to kill, I don't play golf. It's not a game for people in a hurry, and I honestly don't care for that type of impatient person anyway..
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A little off-topic but you hit a nerve today. I'm on vacation. I'm not in a hurry. I'm not an impatient person. But, I was quite perturbed with a +5 hour round. There's no excuse for that. Don't need to "kill" six hours to play a round of golf!!!
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RE: LPGA blows it with Morgan Pressel penalty - 05/20/12 5:41:51 PM
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simonsez
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Let's see, they applied their well known and understood rules about pace of play and they blew it.
Some of you guys exhibit the analytical ability of a root vegetable with apologies to turnips and potatoes.
And some people who really should know better, offer gratuitous insults to people they've never met.
Just because they feel safe behind their keyboards I guess.
They "blew it" because they enforced the penalty at all, I suspect he's saying and they buggered up the event because of this.
If this could be applied consistently across all pro golf events there really wouldn't be a problem.
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RE: LPGA blows it with Morgan Pressel penalty - 05/20/12 5:48:45 PM
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sdandrea1
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ORIGINAL: NiftyNiblick
The whole slow play thing is nonsense to me anyway. I'm not a slow player, but if I don't have six hours to kill, I don't play golf. It's not a game for people in a hurry, and I honestly don't care for that type of impatient person anyway..
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A little off-topic but you hit a nerve today. I'm on vacation. I'm not in a hurry. I'm not an impatient person. But, I was quite perturbed with a +5 hour round. There's no excuse for that. Don't need to "kill" six hours to play a round of golf!!!
+1 -- 6 hours and 10 minutes today - worst ever at my home course - just shoot me. I can do 4.5 OK, at 5 hours, I start losing rhythm, at 5.5 hours, I lose interest. It's not that I am impatient, I just don't want a round of golf to kill the entire day.
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RE: LPGA blows it with Morgan Pressel penalty - 05/20/12 6:14:21 PM
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1puttit
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ORIGINAL: NiftyNiblick
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ORIGINAL: 1puttit
Every tour has pace of play rules and regulations, but none of them are enforced on the PGA tour.
The wiser solution would be to dispense withthe unnecessary rules.
You might read your own signature, by the way.
I think each tour has a right to determine their rules, publish them, and then enforce them. You may think, like the PGA tour, that pace of play rules are unnecessary and shouldn't be enforced. That's your opinion and you are entitled to it. I disagree.
As to my signature, it is meant to express taking the time to enjoy life as you live it, and is not an endorsement of slow play.
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RE: LPGA blows it with Morgan Pressel penalty - 05/20/12 6:21:23 PM
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jazzus
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Yeah,they blew it.If this was a stroke play event with a full field,then sure,but a match play event with 4 people playing the entire course,BS.
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RE: LPGA blows it with Morgan Pressel penalty - 05/20/12 7:31:01 PM
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mcavoy
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ORIGINAL: NiftyNiblick
The LPGA simply isn't popular enough to annoy people with the enforcement of their prissy rules, especially when it impacts the outcome of a tournament.
The rules officials who made themselves a part of the show today deserve an unpleasant visit from thumb breakers as far as I'm concerned, and if I had a substantial bet on Pressel, they would have received it.
I really like the young Spanish girl who got her first LPGA Tour win, but I know the poor kid can't feel very good about it.
The whole slow play thing is nonsense to me anyway. I'm not a slow player, but if I don't have six hours to kill, I don't play golf. It's not a game for people in a hurry, and I honestly don't care for that type of impatient person anyway..
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Completely disagree w/this post. The onus for staying on time falls 100% on the player(s). The official who "made himself part of the show" only did so after the pair had been put on the clock earlier. Pressel clearly exceeded the time allowed. I have nothing against Pressel. She is a classy person/player and I understand her disappointment. Your analogy comparing a casual round of golf "if I don't have 6 hours to kill I don't play golf" misses the mark. You are comparing a casual round to a competitive round w/structure and rules that all the players are aware of. I applaud the LPGA for making a stand here. My only hope is that they apply it consistently from here on forward.
Its not often Tiger says anything of substance in an interview, but I agree w/his logic when he was asked what should be done about slow play:
"Former world No. 1 Woods believes a shot penalty for a 'bad time' when a player is on the clock would be a far bigger deterrent than cash punishments which are believed to be around $5,000 to $10,000.
"Very simple. If you get a warning, you get a penalty. I think that would speed it up," Woods told reporters after carding a final round 73 to finish 12 strokes behind winner Matt Kuchar.
"Strokes is money. One shot can be the difference between first and second. How much is the difference between first and second? $800,000?
"I would take the five grand over the 800k. That one shot, that's the difference, that's what people don't realize, that one shot is so valuable," added the 14-times major winner."
If all Tours started enforcing pace of play in this way then the instances of having to enforce it would quickly start to diminish.
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