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RE: Spine Alignment - 04/16/12 4:26:15 PM
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 Rickochet
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ORIGINAL: newjedi I believe it there just seemed to be no feeling whatsoever to the shaft. I have a pretty good swing and there is not many clubs I can't swing and hit good. quote:
ORIGINAL: Rickochet quote:
ORIGINAL: newjedi I was taking the NBP at 9 o'clock. I just checked the shaft and I must have been drunk because it was showing the NBP at 6 o'clock. One of the most interesting aspects of shaft spines is the flex. If you can measure flex you will find that many sheet wrapped graphites can vary a full flex or more depending how the shaft is oriented in the head. What I was suggesting that if you take a shaft that might be borderline too stiff at NBP to target it will feel totally dead and like rebar if the spine is oriented to target.
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RE: Spine Alignment - 04/16/12 6:32:32 PM
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 clubdoctoruk
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ORIGINAL: scotts33 Read Tutelman's pages on shafts. There are two types Type 1 (N1 and S1) mostly steel and Type 2 (N1 & N2 plus S1 and S2) most graphite ... Only in a spine finder or similar device. Fundamentally all shafts are Type 2; a Type 1 shaft is simply a Type 2 shaft with a significant residual bend ... quote:
... On Type 1 steel you are finding the N1 & S1 which is the weld in the steel tubing process N1 goes at target S1 winds up usually 180 deg. from N1 again FLO rules. N1 = NBP. More often than not, it's the plane of the residual bend, which has little to do with the weld seam. FLO does (or should) rule, though ...
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RE: Spine Alignment - 04/18/12 5:50:07 PM
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 clubdoctoruk
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ORIGINAL: golfnut2400 I'll just add that residual bend having an effect on a bearing-based spine finder is not all that common, particularly if you are using FST or TT steel shafts. The majority of these shafts will FLO in the same plane as the NBP found in the spine finder. I'm afraid that is incorrect - at least it is, in my experience over the last 13 years or so, as far as TT steel shafts are concerned. Can't be as certain about FST-branded shafts, but KBS shafts are made by FST and the same comment applies to them as to TT ...
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RE: Spine Alignment - 04/18/12 7:05:24 PM
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ORIGINAL: clubdoctoruk quote:
ORIGINAL: golfnut2400 I'll just add that residual bend having an effect on a bearing-based spine finder is not all that common, particularly if you are using FST or TT steel shafts. The majority of these shafts will FLO in the same plane as the NBP found in the spine finder. I'm afraid that is incorrect - at least it is, in my experience over the last 13 years or so, as far as TT steel shafts are concerned. Can't be as certain about FST-branded shafts, but KBS shafts are made by FST and the same comment applies to them as to TT ... John is correct. We find the FLO almost every time on the NBP of FST shafts. In fact my gamer set of 115 Pros all FLOed on the NBP.
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RE: Spine Alignment - 04/18/12 8:52:51 PM
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 scotts33
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I agree on the FST statements, not sure on the KBS as I don't use many, TT definitely has gone downhill in the past 10+ years. TT's PX was much better when Royal Precision mfg. PX....poor now that TT has control and manufactured them along with their own TT line. You can see my statements made about FST back in about 2003-4 I believe on FST ProVision's and I haven't seen much downgrade in QA since then. http://www.fstshafts.com/testimonials.php
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RE: Spine Alignment - 04/19/12 8:21:57 AM
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 ValueGolf
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ORIGINAL: scotts33 I agree on the FST statements, not sure on the KBS as I don't use many, TT definitely has gone downhill in the past 10+ years. TT's PX was much better when Royal Precision mfg. PX....poor now that TT has control and manufactured them along with their own TT line. You can see my statements made about FST back in about 2003-4 I believe on FST ProVision's and I haven't seen much downgrade in QA since then. http://www.fstshafts.com/testimonials.php I'm consistently amazed at the quality of FST steel. Add in the cost factor and these are the best in the business IMO.
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RE: Spine Alignment - 04/19/12 10:58:33 AM
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 ode
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Can we rename it NBP alignment:) Who really aligns the spine.
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