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iron length adjustment - 04/08/12 9:01:33 PM
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runpuddrun
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I recently bought a set of irons and the person I bought them from had them built by a "professional" club builder 1/2" long. he said that he didn't like them and they never felt right to him. Well, I received the irons and went out to test them out and really liked them but I could tell something wasn't right. I had my current irons with me as well (very heavy bag at the range that day!) and held the 5-8 irons up against each other and they were very different lengths, varied wildly from one another. I took them home and measured them and here's what I got:
4i - 39 4/8" off by 1"
5i - 38 7/8" off by 7/8
6i - 38 4/8" off by 1"
7i - 38" off by 1"
8i - 37" off by 1/2"
9i - 36 7/8" off by 7/8"
PW - 36 4/8" off by 1/2"
AW - 36 3/8" off by 3/8"
and this doesn't acct for the 1/2" he added. I was floored, needless to say. Now, my question is, since I planned on cutting these down to standard length (as this is what I need being 5'10.5" and WTF of 34.5 and what I have the most success with) is it ok to just cut off the lengths and add new grips or what? Since i'll be cutting off 1.5" on a few of them, that will be a pretty massive SW swing (9 SW's) on 3 and more than 6 on most of them...
He said that they were build to D2 SW ( who knows as the lengths are completely wrong) and I don't have a SW scale but I can use an online calc to figure it out (I have the headweights).
Please help!
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RE: iron length adjustment - 04/09/12 3:58:21 AM
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Rickochet
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If the original build was that sloppy I would check for proper tip trimming also. If you have a compressor learn how to blow grips off. Adjust the lengths and replace the grips.
If you are interested in swing weight weigh the completed club and balance it on a sharp edge. Measure from the balance point to the end of the grip and use this online swing weight estimator.
Swing Weight Estimator
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RE: iron length adjustment - 04/09/12 9:08:16 PM
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runpuddrun
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I finally sat down and had some time to figure it all out. here's what I came up with. Is it still ok to just cut to length and go from there? I have some lead tape and will be buying some tungsten powder and corks.
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Driver: Wishon 919THI 11*
Wood: Wishon 949MC 16.5*
Hybrid: W/S Fybrid RS 19.5*, Wishon 775HS 4H-24*
Irons: Wishon 870ti 5-PW
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RE: iron length adjustment - 04/10/12 5:36:48 AM
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spuzz
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I would check for proper tip trimming also
You might be able to estimate the tip trimming by measuring the top of the hosel to the graphics and the parallel section up to the first step, depending on what shafts they are.
Not the most scientific method for sure.
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RE: iron length adjustment - 04/10/12 7:23:14 AM
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runpuddrun
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I am willing to start all over, get new shafts, grips, etc.. I have a compressor and have blown grips before so that isn't a problem. I was the person who started the whole "right shaft for me" thread last week based on this and another set of 560's that I want to build up.
Now, by pull them and start all over, what do you mean by that? trash the shafts or reuse them, measure tip trimming, weigh? I don't have any advanced tools but am willing to DIY as I want to do this myself and learn in the process.
I am very interested in an MOI build, and have MonteD's SS, but just a bit overwhelmed by it. based on what i've read ( a lot) I can do a very basic MOI build by moving SW 1.3/club.
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Depending on what the shafts are and cost...if it was me I'd pull 'em and start over and get it right.
Me too, but it doesn't appear that the OP was willing to go that far to fix the issue or else I would have started and stopped with that advice 
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Wood: Wishon 949MC 16.5*
Hybrid: W/S Fybrid RS 19.5*, Wishon 775HS 4H-24*
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Wedges: Eidolon 50*, 54*, 58*
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RE: iron length adjustment - 04/10/12 7:29:29 AM
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runpuddrun
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I don't have my head in the sand :) I am fully aware, just inexperienced and don't have a lot of the tools to do such a build. I think I can manage as I did with my swingweight scale, if you can call it that... The point of finding out the SW was to see how borked up it really was. If I do end up pulling and starting all over, I am strongly considering 3/8 increments MOI build, just don't know where to start :)
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Driver: Wishon 919THI 11*
Wood: Wishon 949MC 16.5*
Hybrid: W/S Fybrid RS 19.5*, Wishon 775HS 4H-24*
Irons: Wishon 870ti 5-PW
Wedges: Eidolon 50*, 54*, 58*
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RE: iron length adjustment - 04/10/12 8:16:18 AM
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Rickochet
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ORIGINAL: runpuddrun
I am willing to start all over, get new shafts, grips, etc.. I have a compressor and have blown grips before so that isn't a problem. I was the person who started the whole "right shaft for me" thread last week based on this and another set of 560's that I want to build up.
Now, by pull them and start all over, what do you mean by that? trash the shafts or reuse them, measure tip trimming, weigh? I don't have any advanced tools but am willing to DIY as I want to do this myself and learn in the process.
I am very interested in an MOI build, and have MonteD's SS, but just a bit overwhelmed by it. based on what i've read ( a lot) I can do a very basic MOI build by moving SW 1.3/club.
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Depending on what the shafts are and cost...if it was me I'd pull 'em and start over and get it right.
Me too, but it doesn't appear that the OP was willing to go that far to fix the issue or else I would have started and stopped with that advice
I think what was meant by "starting over" was to disassemble the clubs and reshaft them to your desired specs. If you can reuse the shafts that is good. Since you can blow off grips I would first take off the grips, adjust the length by butt trimming and reinstall the grips. Demo them at the range and see how they feel. If ok then no further work needed unless you just want to tinker or fine tune them even more.
And you don't need a lot of tools. Vice with shaft clamp, tubing cutter or hack saw, and torch or heat gun for pulling shafts. Add a shaft puller if doing graphite and want to save the old shafts.
It sounds like you have acquired a good basic knowledge of what you want to do. Jump in and have fun. Ask more questions if you need help. 
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RE: iron length adjustment - 04/10/12 8:25:15 AM
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runpuddrun
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Thanks, yes.
I have tinkered a bit but just got pulled into the dark side of clubbuilding a couple months back... I have a shaft puller that I got on here (hydraulic one), shaft clamp, vice, 48" ruler, heat gun, butane torch, hack saw, dremel tool, air compressor, gram scale...
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Driver: Wishon 919THI 11*
Wood: Wishon 949MC 16.5*
Hybrid: W/S Fybrid RS 19.5*, Wishon 775HS 4H-24*
Irons: Wishon 870ti 5-PW
Wedges: Eidolon 50*, 54*, 58*
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RE: iron length adjustment - 04/10/12 8:38:51 AM
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goto10
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Without a freq meter and swingweight scale, I would definitely yank those puppies apart so I could find out what I really have.
You may be able to re-use those shafts depending on their tipping (follow spuzz' advice and check the distances between tip and first step for increments) and the lengths of the raw shafts. You could even soft-step them to get some length back if you aren't planning on using the 4i, etc.
What kind of heads/shafts? You may be dealing with taper tips in which case the tipping considerations are moot.
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