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ball in hazard - 03/24/06 7:13:21 AM
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bogeypromac
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I need some light in this issue.
Yesterday playing golf with a bunch of friends one of them fell into a lateral hazard.
He played it as it was the ball, he moved the ball around an inch, looking at it he declared it unplayable so he removed from the hazard in the line it came in.
For me once he hitted the ball in teh hazard he couldnt drop the ball outside the hazard so
i told him that he can drop it inside the hazard within the distance of two clubs or drop it outside the hazard but in line with the flag.
Beside of the penalty involved i would like to know how to proceed in this case in a tournament because the in the rule book i couldnt find an explanation that filled with this problem
I will apreciate your coments
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RE: ball in hazard - 03/24/06 7:36:08 AM
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Redan
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Rule 26-1 and 26-2. For relief from lateral water hazard 26-1a,b, or c [only for lateral water hazard]. These remedies/relief appear to be available even if the ball has been played within the hazard. Be sure to carry an abacus to keep count of the penalty strokes...
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RE: ball in hazard - 03/24/06 7:37:42 AM
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atticusfinch
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quote:
ORIGINAL: bogeypromac
I need some light in this issue.
Yesterday playing golf with a bunch of friends one of them fell into a lateral hazard.
Did he get wet? Harharhar 
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He played it as it was the ball, he moved the ball around an inch, looking at it he declared it unplayable so he removed from the hazard in the line it came in.
For me once he hitted the ball in teh hazard he couldnt drop the ball outside the hazard so
i told him that he can drop it inside the hazard within the distance of two clubs or drop it outside the hazard but in line with the flag.
Beside of the penalty involved i would like to know how to proceed in this case in a tournament because the in the rule book i couldnt find an explanation that filled with this problem
I will apreciate your coments
Perhaps the most compicated rule in the book Rule 26-2. If you play the ball in a water hazard and it does not get out, you may play as it lies. Or you may drop at the spot previously played from in the hazard, adding a stroke. Or you may drop outside the hazard using teh point the ball last crossed the margin for relief as if he was necer in the hazard. Or take a drop at the spot he last played from outside the hazard, adding a stroke in addition to the relief stroke.
Your post has a couple of things to watch out for in the future. There is no line of flight relief. You cannot declare the ball unplayabel in a hazard.
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RE: ball in hazard - 03/24/06 6:01:46 PM
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1dash1
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Bogeypromac:
His options, after playing the ball once from the hazard:
1. Play the ball as it lies.
2. Take his usual relief under the lateral water hazard rule.
Provided the ball never left the hazard, he has the same options of relief, regardless of whether it is the first, the second or the fifteenth shot played from within the water hazard. Those are options are the usual:
- Play a ball from where he last played it (Rule 26-1a).
- Drop a ball behind the water hazard, in line with the point of entry and the hole (Rule 26-1b).
- Drop a ball within two clublengths of the point of entry (or equidistant point on the opposite margin), no closer to the hole (Rule 26-1c).
All under penalty of one stroke for taking relief.
3. If the ball left the margin of the water hazard and came back into the same water hazard or came to rest in another water hazard, the player has the same options listed above.
The only difference being that the reference point for taking relief (point where the ball last crossed the margin of the hazard) changes.
And if the different water hazard was a regular water hazard, instead of a lateral water hazard, then he would lose the two clublength relief option.
4. And the player has one more option. Instead of playing a ball from where he last played it (Rule 26-1a), he may opt to play a ball from where he last played it outside the hazard (Rule 26-2a.iii). This is option commonly referred to as the "Regression Rule".
In either case, whether he drops the ball where he last played it within the hazard or whether he regresses to where he last played it outside the hazard, the relief option costs him them the same - one penalty stroke.
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There are other provisions of Rule 26-2, covering what happens if the ball hit is lost or O.B. and what happens if, after dropping the ball within the water hazard, the player doesn't want to play it. However, I think you can do without those explanations.
Link to Rule 26-2
Hope this clarifies the comments made by others. 
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RE: ball in hazard - 03/24/06 7:17:09 PM
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1dash1
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Post script:
Decisions 26-2/1 and 26-2/2 might be of interest to you in illustrating the relief options.
Link to Decisions 26-2/1 and 26-2/2
In Decision 26-2/1, I wish that the drawing had been separated into two, one for Player A and one for Player B. However, if you just put a blank piece of paper and cover the side of the illustration that doesn't apply when you're reading the discussion, it's not too bad.
In Decision 26-2/2, if you print the ruling out, then color code the different options in the discussion with a matching color in the illustration, it makes it a easier to follow the explanation.
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And re-emphasizing the points made by Atticus:
- There is no such thing as "line of flight" relief from a water hazard.
- The player is not entitled to proceed under the Unplayable Ball rule, Rule 28, for a ball lying in a water hazard.
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